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Posted by: Duardo
I was thinking about updating the original post. Any ideas?
Also, what have we learned (criteria wise) about how to achieve each prefix?
I wrote up a pretty big post on page 132 on the observations I had at the time... Maybe there's something worthy in there?
Posted by: JBSpudster
Posted by: Duardo
WTF?! I had a Member bar color yesterday, and now I'm Mythic???
Strange system indeed...something's gotta be wrong
Also, if anybody has any solid proof about some criteria for prefixes or a title, create a post with said proof.
I've been studying the Member Title System for a very long time now, and in regards to your concern about jumping from "Member" to "Mythic Member" in just a day, here is my belief as to why that happened. I posted that in April and so far there hasn't been any evidence that goes against that theory, however there has been plenty of evidence that supports it.
Posted by: JBSpudster
I too noticed that a lot of member titles changed on the 1st, but there is something different about the majority of the members who had their titles changed....You said you noticed a decent amount of members who jumped straight to "Legendary" and "Mythic" from "Member", right? Well that can only happen if:
1.) They are all long term members who all had a sudden increase of activity after a long period of inactivity.
or
2.) They are all long term members who were banned at one point or another and are finally starting to regain the system's trust.
Scenario #1 seems unlikely to me because the odds of 10+ long term members suddenly becoming very active at the same time are rather small. Scenario #2 seems much more probable to me since the member title system is automated, thus individual member titles are more likely to change along with their "similar" peers if you will.
Like I hinted at the beginning of my post, I noticed that the majority of the member's who had title changes on April first were previously banned users. This may just be a coincidence, or it may mean that banned users regain trust starting on the first of a given month, X amount of months after their ban (depending on the severity of the ban). I am curious to see what happens on May 1st. ^_^
As for the Prefixes, I made a list of what I believed to be the criteria for each Prefix, as of February. So far there hasn't been any dissenting evidence to those theories.
Posted by: JBSpudster
I'm pretty sure that I've figured out the criteria for almost every prefix by just watching people's prefixes change over the past couple of months or so. Here's what I've found:
-1 year without a ban = Honorable
-2 years without a ban = Noble
-3 years without a ban = Exalted
-4 years with a non-recent ban history = Veteran
-5 years with a non-recent ban history = Senior
-6 years with a non-recent ban history = Elder
(I say "non-recent ban history" since it takes awhile for a member to regain a prefix after a ban.)
The Intrepid and Fabled prefixes are a lot harder to determine what it takes to gain them, but I do know that they require a lot of forum activity and are unaffected by a non-recent ban history. My guess is that it takes a certain daily or weekly post quota sustained for a certain period of time, maybe a month or so, to gain the Intrepid prefix. In that case I think that the Fabled prefix would simply be either a larger post quota over the same amount of time, or the same post quota but sustained for a longer period of time, I'm not too sure though.
As for Base Titles, well they're a lot trickier than what most people think they are, and coming up with deciding factors based on observations is very difficult. However, from what I've seen, an individual's Base Title is largely dependant upon 3 factors; Join Date, Posting Activity & Immediate Peers (Ordered by influence from most to least).
A member's Join Date seems to be the largest factor in determining their Base Title, not Posting Activity. The reason for this is that I have observed, on many occasions, very long term members who have only posted a few times anywhere on Bungie.net jumping straight to an evelated title within a day, while there are plenty of very new members who post in the double digits every day and don't have any sort of elevated title. If Posting Activity was the larger factor, then practically every member on the public forums would have an elevated title, since the public forums are basically a display of the currently active members.
The way I see the Base Title System functioning, based off of observations, is that each member has two trust values; a maximum trust value and a true trust value. I believe that a member's Join Date is the deciding factor of their maximum trust value, and with each day that passes that maximum trust value increases by X incremental amount. So, as an example, a 3 year member would have a much larger maximum trust value than say a 1 year member.
Now this is not to be confused with a member's true trust value. I believe that a member's true trust value is derived from their Posting Activity and other speculated factors, such as sign-in frequency. In any case for any individual, the true trust value can never be greater than their specific maximum trust value, it can only be less than or equal to. So, basically a member's maximum trust value is determined by how long they've been a member and staying active is a way of ensuring that their true trust value is equal to their maximum trust value. This would explain as to why a new member will not gain an elevated title, even if they post a thousand times a day, until their maximum trust value allows them to.
Ban observations can also be explained using this system. For instance, when an individual becomes banned their maximum trust value becomes temporarily lowered by X amount (depending upon the ban severity), and so their true trust value is also stuck at the new lowered maximum. X months later, their maximum trust value returns to what it would have been if the individual hadn't received the ban, and so their true trust value also increases to the new heightened maximum once they recover from the ban.
This is all completely speculative, but it's the best answer I have. Sorry if the last 3 paragraphs or so are hard to understand. I had to rush through them, but if any one has any questions about it I'd be happy to answer later. ^_^