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Subject: GENERATOR DEFENSE / NETWORK TEST 1: Impressions/Feedback

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  • 05.14.2010 11:47 AM PDT
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After playing only a few games, two things really bug me.

1. The lag. It feels like coop campaign with foreign host. I can't even scope in without lag. I am assuming this is a known issue though, since its called network test.

2. Locks. The time that generators stay locked is way too long. Either make it so you can't instantly lock them, or decrease the lock time.

Also, I'm in a game right now and nobody can move. We are all standing still, and we can only look around. We can't shoot or anything. The scenery is nice though.


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  • 05.14.2010 11:48 AM PDT
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  • 05.14.2010 11:48 AM PDT
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I feel like the framerate is pretty low for this map. At least it was the first game.



Well, yeah, because it's stressing their netcode.

[Edited on 05.16.2010 12:57 PM PDT]

  • 05.14.2010 11:49 AM PDT
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I think this gametype is OK, but not great.

There were some issues with lag. I like that all loadouts are available upon spawn, unlike the Invasion gametype. I think the spawns need to be tweaked, because its very easy to spawn kill.

[Edited on 05.15.2010 11:35 AM PDT]

  • 05.14.2010 11:49 AM PDT
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I feel like the framerate is pretty low for this map. At least it was the first game.

I agree, there's also an insane amount of delay between when I click a button and the response.

[Edited on 05.14.2010 11:57 AM PDT]

  • 05.14.2010 11:50 AM PDT
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Seems like a fancy Territories match. There should be more territories and maybe we can put it in BTB. Not a lot of gametypes in H3's BTB and this would be more exciting with lots of people.

[Edited on 05.15.2010 11:38 PM PDT]

  • 05.14.2010 11:50 AM PDT
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Now you see me...

First off, a few things:

The controls seems quite sluggish. I know it's a network test and this is being looked at, but it's so bad that it makes me not want to play.

Secondly, There seems to be an imbalance as far as power. The spartans have the grenade launcher loadout from the start with is one hit insta-death to elites who are running up the hill. The Elites have no real counter to this.

Just a few first impressions.

  • 05.14.2010 11:50 AM PDT
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I feel like the framerate is pretty low for this map. At least it was the first game.

I agree, there's also an insane amount of delay between when I click a button, and the response.

Exactly.

  • 05.14.2010 11:50 AM PDT
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Only played two matches but it seems to be great and pretty fun. Only complaint about the whole thing is the slight lag I've experienced (which is probably going to stay for the most part, hence the name of the playlist, lol) but overall it seems fun.

I would love to see more playlists with objective type things such as Generator and Invasion.

I would also much rather see more weapons drop on the spartan side as it seems like the elites get ALL the power weapons that drop. But maybe it's supposed to be that way.

  • 05.14.2010 11:51 AM PDT
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halo is not tactical or very team oriented. its not like "Dieter, frag and clear on zulu. Loiselle and Price, yoo fall in on my lead. Go! *boom, door breaks and some gunshots heard.* Tango Down! Gold Element, secure hostage. Blue Element, regroup at objective rally point." its usually more like, "yo i gots rockets, ima go camp in the sword room" which you dont even have to say. my point is that you dont need to communicate in halo

-Super lag. Not connection lag, but lag because the game is set up like Campaign. In case anyone here doesn't know, there are 2 different ways Bungie can set up the game. One being the MP that we always see and 2 being the Campaign/Firefight way.

-Too many loadouts. Give the players attacking better loadouts as they destroy more generators.

Ill add more later

[Edited on 05.16.2010 9:06 PM PDT]

  • 05.14.2010 11:51 AM PDT
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  • 05.14.2010 11:51 AM PDT
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Okay well first there are connection issues with constant reconnecting. However wants it gets going these generally go, but the game is still slow to react.

The map its self seems good only played it once though as i cant really cope with playing a really laggy game sorry. I think there needs to be 1 more player on each team though as 3 on 3 seems small for the size of the map, other than that i like it so far but as i said only played it once so cant really say to much

  • 05.14.2010 11:51 AM PDT
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I love this playlist. It's incredibly awesome. Here's my first match.

My aim was off A LOT because it was incredibly laggy though. Like, Campaign lag and framerate issues.

I noticed that when a player left, we were given about 10 seconds for them to come back into the match. If they didn't, they were booted.

I love the return to battlefield segments; I guess that's where we'll be in Campaign?

Beautiful map! Hope to see it this fall.

  • 05.14.2010 11:51 AM PDT
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well i have played a few games now and its alot of fun, both sides are cool, but generator lock recharges like in 10 secons.

ohh and the lagggggggg its unberable, its like playing coop in halo 3 just fix that and the lock recharge.

  • 05.14.2010 11:51 AM PDT
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I've only played twice, and perhaps it's because I haven't learned the map yet, but it's pretty easy to destroy all three generators as an Elite.

  • 05.14.2010 11:51 AM PDT
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  • 05.14.2010 11:51 AM PDT
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Hopefully I get to play this soon.

  • 05.14.2010 11:51 AM PDT
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In a post I made before, the network Test is laggy, yes. and i understand why, but I got connection booted from a game, and then sent to the ODST main menu, and given a matchmaking ban message 50+ times in and around 2 minutes

  • 05.14.2010 11:51 AM PDT
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I'll start with its fun. Then I'll say that I like that map its on. The waterfall is nice.

For the few matches played...it seems pretty equal.

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The ability to lock down the generators. That seems to be the make or brake. Have play with that. Have to say though... ya guys made 5 seconds of fun... in multiplayer. And its a beta. Bravo to you all.

More to say later.
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Thought of something... the Elites on there HUD should see when the generator is locked. vs a vi... change of color and lines moving across the bar. The Spartans should see this too.

But they both see something different as well.

The Spartans see when it is cooling down. (or vise versa)

The Elites see with a timer when the lock down ends (or vise versa).

I thought of this and you didn't ... na na na na na :P.

More to say later
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Sometimes when I try to lock the generator with X or RB.. I do the "control action" instead. When seconds count...this sucks.

I Suggest Right Plus(+) Pad to lock generator.

How does your post of my post giving you headaches help Bungie Randomhero123? I'm sure you can rebutt that...don't. The question was rhetorical. The suggestion isn't. GGA. ;)


More to say (yep...) later.
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[Edited on 05.14.2010 2:18 PM PDT]

  • 05.14.2010 11:52 AM PDT
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generators are able to be locked almost immediately after unlocking. cool down should be increased.

[Edited on 05.14.2010 12:35 PM PDT]

  • 05.14.2010 11:52 AM PDT
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It feels pretty pointless to give the Spartans the Grenade launcher as a loadout, as it isn't very useful(in this situation), and it would only benefit the Elites when picked up for destroying the Generators

  • 05.14.2010 11:52 AM PDT
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I believe that Network Test 1 is testing Bunige's Campaign model. This is due to several things:

Firstly the latency I experienced was very characteristic of playing trans-atlantic Campaign/Firefight games.

Second, when I saved a cool moment the film's description was "Overlook on Easy" If that doesn't clinch it I don't know what will. :-P


So, what does this mean? I believe it points to an improved Campaign/Firefight network model which will allow matchmaking. Everyone's biggest ODST complaint looks to be resolved with Reach; assuming Bungie works their code out, admittedly is pretty good currently but there were "bumps".

  • 05.14.2010 11:52 AM PDT
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Love the map. Hate the lag, but I'm confident you guys will fix that.

  • 05.14.2010 11:52 AM PDT
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The only problems I've been running into is teammates that are clueless, and this is the only gametype that delays my controls. The latency on controls is really bad, and this is the only playlist that does it.

  • 05.14.2010 11:54 AM PDT
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