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  • Subject: WEAPONS, VEHICLES, & LOADOUTS Impressions/Feedback
Subject: WEAPONS, VEHICLES, & LOADOUTS Impressions/Feedback

I really think the AR isnt powerful enough. You cant even kill someone with the first clip.

  • 05.21.2010 12:04 AM PDT
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the energy sword needs to be like it was in halo 2, also i would like to see a carbine again.

  • 05.21.2010 12:24 AM PDT
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if you are playing invasion and it is hard to ride a tank on the map cuz it is so meny absticuls

  • 05.21.2010 12:43 AM PDT
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The AR not being powerful enough is a big big issue with people and screws with the natural flow of the game.

I read somewhere that the AR takes 22 bullets to kill in reach. I would've tested this out myself but there were no custom games.

The beat-down system makes the AR worse already and now your making the bullets kill less easy also.

The AR was already under-powered in HALO 3, pro's never touched it for a reason. It should be a decent counter and make good fights that throb a mans heart when he gets in a fight against an assult rifle when he has the pistol. Not let him feel greedy with a free kill.

In the BETA I never touched the AR I knew something was wrong with it despite its same bullet count, better accuracy and same rate of fire. I didn't know the bullets to kill was off by six though.

It should be back to 16 like in Halo 3 keeping the accuracy bonus.

OR it should still take 22 bullets, but with a 42 round clip instead of 32 and fires the speed to get rid of the clip at the same rate overall.

The weapon needs a logical improvement for the sake of gameplay.

Sincerely, War Moon.

  • 05.21.2010 1:05 AM PDT
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Oh, I agree with people saying that the DMR needs a bigger clip size.

The BR had 15 bursts in it, the DMR has 15 shots. I see why you put 15 in the Beta but honestly 18 seems perfect with nothing else whatsoever changed. Many people say the DMR needs improvement like LESS bloom but that is a poor idea the bloom seems perfect. Clip size does not. THE BR 4-shotted. THE DMR 5-shots. So bigger clip size.

NO DMR 4 SHOT, the gun would be so rigged and overpowered. It is already an amazing weapon with the five shot.

Pistol clip size does not need changing because it still destroys close range and medium - long time is required and gameplay is great with that size there. DMR needs to have its better advantages on the pistol. The pistol's close range is a very logical advantage the the DMR and is great.

ALL FOR BRINGING SMG BACK WITH DIFFERENT DESIGN. ASSAULT RIFLES LITTLE BROTHER WOULD BE AMAZING SURPRISE.

  • 05.21.2010 1:14 AM PDT
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Original Jim Xzor!

-Need alien Sniper like in Halo 3 but with Explosion effekt. First needle explode immediatly the shield, the secound needle overloads in few secound like three of them from Needle Rifle if u aim for the head, the needle explodes the shield and its splitter sticks on head to get the headshot. You can also snipe vehicles with it, because of its explosion effect.

Greets from germany, sry for my english^^

  • 05.21.2010 1:22 AM PDT
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I have always been a close-quartered combat-competetive player and vehicles is not my preferable choice to use in any gametype.

BUT I loved the wraith in Invasion. Wow-ee it felt good. Everytime I was destroyed within 90 seconds with the balance of anti-vehicle weapons to amazing vehicles. BUT to get a few kills first due to aiming across the map to where a player is about to be felt so good. Best vehicle experience I have EVER had in ANY game EVER. I hope nothing is changed about the wraith, somehow it's perfect to me.

The ghost seems the only thing kept similiar related to halo 3 and I like it's way. Nothing to be changed in my opinion.

The warthog, I drove this twice... got out both time. Don't understand why, just didn't feel good to drive, and not safe when I would see a wraith across the map. I didn't go in the gunner ever because I felt like no driver could be trusted. So nothing there. IDK if anything needs to be changed... maybe it was just boneyard. IDK.

SCORPION. Got in it once. I got two kills. But HATED IT. I couldn't back up when I barely hit the staircase thingy on boneyard. And I got major grenaded. IDK why I couldn't back up, but 5 plasma grenades blowing up at once on me due to vehicle failure, felt ridiculous.
I blew up the scorpion many many times too. I like that it blows up easy to counter with plasma grenades, but I hate driving it. Make it easier to drive...

BANSHEE - got in it once. i felt like a drunk driver due to it's weird flying, and ran into a sitting duck armor lock dude trying to get out of the way but i couldn't. I easily died due to vehicle failure. BUT the banshee's small wings plus harder to drive = less banshee running riots. Which means GOOD. IDC if the flight doesn't get fixed by the full game. MUAHAHAHA.

NO CHOPPER?
Good.
(:

No brute warthog type-stupid thingy...
Good.

All the classics - AMAZING.

New vehicles in the full game, AMAZING.
I hope to see the chopper, hornet, brute warthog thingy, and all that... gone for good. CLASSICS + NEW DELICOUSES = Great improvement.

  • 05.21.2010 1:29 AM PDT
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The biggest issues I've seen in the beta, is the ability of locked players to "feather" their armor lock to make them closer to invincible than is fun.

Invisible sword isn't any fun. Can we make it glow while camo'd or something? I don't like that the armor lock's anti melee kicks in without warning. I think sprint's melee should have a bit more kick to it. And rocket jetpacks aren't fun.

Otherwise, I like what new features are in the game, great job Bungie on a fun filled and enthralling beta. I can't wait for campaign!

  • 05.21.2010 1:30 AM PDT
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you dont know what you've done and i rock the guitar.marathon the hoplights my clan looking for members

i think bungie did a great job i'm not gonna get into the grenades or plasma grenade launcher cause i like the extra power and i've played Halo since the first one and played everything Halo since. i only had two suggestions. one please bring back duel weilding i remember when i fist duel weilded two sweet smg's it was so cool and i really missed it in ODST. second. make the vehicles better to drive cause i keep getting stuck in the tank. one last thing BUNGIE YOU GUYS ROCK MAKE THIS HALO WHAT I'M HOPING WONT BE THE LAST ONE BUT MAYBE ROCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • 05.21.2010 1:46 AM PDT
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The shotgun should be set on the map and not in a Loadout.
The Magnum and the Focus Rifle are perfect. Do not change them ! Many people say the Plasma-Launcher is too powerful. I don't think so. It is difficult to aim with it, and it doesn't have a lot of ammo. I just hope we'll see the fuel rod gun in the final game. The Energy Sword has to be improved.There are many bugs with it. Sometimes the guy dies, sometimes he's only hurt. When he meeles you, your hit doesn't kill, and he meeles again, and you die. I want Halo 3's sword back ! But the idea Sprint/Sword is good. The camouflage isn't very useful, because when the motion tracker is jammed, the enemies are careful and see you quickly. It would be a good thing that this ability doesn't jam the tracker.
A suggestion : when you shoot with the Grenade Launcher, and you hold the trigger, the grenade goes away and you don't see it any more. On the GL's screen, there could be a light (red, for example)which would warn you when a guy is next to your grenade.
Frag grenades should only break your entire shield, and not hurt your life. Furthermore, the radius is too big.
The Rocket-Launcher is very powerful. Okay, but you die, or you're not hurt. The damages should decrease when the opponent is far from the explosion.
The different colors on the motion tracker is a good idea, but it is difficult to make the difference between the guys next to you and the guys above you.
It is also difficult to see what kind of grenade you have.
Sometimes I want to stick an enemy, and.... I throw a frag grenade.........

  • 05.21.2010 2:09 AM PDT
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one weapon I have a question on, why the crap does the Grav. Hammer have the lunge ability much like the Sword's? I hate it! you think you're by safe running from them and then all of a sudden, Blam! kills you due to the lunge. as for my opinion on other weapons add more power to the AR, less ammo in the Plasma Launcher and remove the ability to block swords with a melee

[Edited on 05.21.2010 2:27 AM PDT]

  • 05.21.2010 2:26 AM PDT
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First off, love the beta and like many say grenades are overpowered, maybe reduce blast radius and/or increase movement speed.
The AR needs more power since the pistol can easily take it out. The pistol is perfect, no need for more power or larger clip size since it is a sidearm after all.

The DMR works great but still needs more tweaks like adding two more rounds to each clip making the clip size 14 rounds per clip, 15 rounds per clip would be too many making it possible for 3 kills with just one clip.

Shotgun is great where it's at.
The Hammer feels overpowered, especially the lunge on it.
The Sword feels underpowered with the addition of the melee block.
Plasma launcher is way overpowered and either reduce or remove the tracking ability on infantry and/or perhaps reduce the ammo size of the weapon.
Rocket launcher is perfect.
Focus Rifle feels great but may need some tweaking, especially with how easy it is to use at close range.(I love the weapon)
All other weapons feel fine.

The vehicles feel way too weak, buff them, especially with all the new anti-vehicle weapons, also, the scorpian tank feels tougher to drive.

As for loadouts, many are fine except for the shotgun loadout, got to go as well as change the secondary weapon on the Elites needlerifle loadout, plasma pistol is too complementary to this loadout(overpowered).

I had blast with the beta and hopefully you'll make effective changes for the best balance for both causals and the hardcore.

  • 05.21.2010 2:52 AM PDT
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Subject: WEAPONS, VEHICLES, AND LOADOUT IMPRESSIONS

When playing invasion, and a tier 2 or 3 loadouts become avalible, AFTER your spawning and have already selected a loadout from the previous tier you cannot go back and select the next tier which is no fun!

  • 05.21.2010 3:18 AM PDT
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Subject: WEAPONS, VEHICLES, & LOADOUTS Impressions/Feedback

The ONLY weapons that should be in the loadouts are, for the Elites the Plasma Repeater, Needle Rifle, Plasma Pistol and for the Spartans the Assault Rifle, DMR and Pistol.

[Edited on 05.21.2010 3:36 AM PDT]

  • 05.21.2010 3:35 AM PDT
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Luck.

-Vehicles splatter too easily. My teammates get betrayed from just running to the side of my vehicle.

-It seems that destroying a vehicle makes the enemies aboard count as guardian kills. I've gotten multiple double kills on Wraiths with the GL, but those don't count as GL kills on my service record. This also inflates the amount of guardian kills. And you won't get the medals from sticks and lasers.

-Bold suggestion: make grenades act like the melees when it comes to shields.

-The banshee's EMP shutdown time is too long.

  • 05.21.2010 3:56 AM PDT
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Subject: WEAPONS, VEHICLES, AND LOADOUT IMPRESSIONS

I shot a banshee with the laser and nothing happened.
Vechicles get blown up to easily. The elite focus beam is garbage. Need a sniper for elites. Gernade launcher needs to be more powerful, if gernades are so powerful then why is the launcher weak. I like how you can shoot it and hold the button for a delayed explosion. Need the chopper back, alittle better steering for scorpion. I love the new melee from behind. Love the plasma launcher. Elites are just alittle to powerful. Besides that Reach will be great.

  • 05.21.2010 6:19 AM PDT
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DMR - I think the DMR would be better with a bigger mag, along with a bigger clip and def a higher fire rate. its a beast of a weapon but needs some tweaks.

Needler Carbine - This weapon is the shizznit. As with the DMR i think this gun could use a higher rate of fire.

Shotgun - Also another badass gun. the range might be a little much but good recoil and not bad on ammo capacity.

Grenades - I think the explosions are perfect but for some reason when i would throw a nade it wouldnt go as far as it should. it seemed like the frag was to heavy for the spartan. The sound effects fro explosions are sick!!

Sniper - Awesome as usual but little less recoil would be nice.

Grenade Launcher - Dope ass weapon. Im not sure if its replacing the brute shot or what but i like it.

Focus Rifle - This gun is the -blam!- if you are using it. if you are the victim of it, then it seems like the most powerful weapon in the game.

Needler - Good as always. PLEASE dont change it!

Magnum - halo 1 and halo 2 put together to make this gun. perfect bungie.

Now for my questions....I know this was a beta and only certain aspects of the game where released but will they bring back the brute shot, the spikers, and spike and flame grenades?
Also, im not sure if it was just me but it seems like it takes longer to switch weapons than it used to.

  • 05.21.2010 6:55 AM PDT
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BRING BACK THE FIRST PERSON VIEW IN VEHICLES PLEASE!!

  • 05.21.2010 6:58 AM PDT
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lol lucky bungie people . if only we were all as lucky as "bungie People" haha

  • 05.21.2010 7:27 AM PDT
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i think cobras,dual weilding and locust should be in the game.in fact bring all the vehicles from halo wars to reach i love them all.keep up the good work bungie u guys rock :]

  • 05.21.2010 7:41 AM PDT
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the DMR is way too in accurate for a single shot you should be able to shoot it faster or bring the BR back cause you have better accuracy running around with the pistol than you do the DMR

everything else is awesome tho

  • 05.21.2010 8:27 AM PDT
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Bungie,

I doubt you were considering it, but dont change the clip sizes! They are perfect to promote a team game which i am sure you are going for.

No longer can one person clear out a room with their pistol, because the low clip size requires a reload between kills.

The clip size definitely promotes teamwork, as you must alternate between reloads, and or focus fire to shorten the amount of bullets used per kill.

Great weapons and balances bungie!

  • 05.21.2010 8:34 AM PDT
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Subject: WEAPONS, VEHICLES, AND LOADOUT IMPRESSIONS

you should always be able to sprint like that is the second thing on every load out.what if you have the power lock load out and you are out of power lock and you need to get out of there fast that's way I think every load out should have sprint.

  • 05.21.2010 8:48 AM PDT
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