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Posted by: WSJFGBSJLFGBvdjd
When I said there are many other people like me, that makes my statement NOT EGOTISTICAL.Dictionary.com: "2.
given to talking about oneself; vain; boastful; opinionated. " I would definitely say that despite you admitting that you aren't the best of the best, saying that you are among the best at aiming and the best at adapting to a situation is boastful. It doesn't really pertain to the argument, besides proving that you are good enough to understand skill gap, but you've already stated that, so now all you're doing is reinforcing how much better you are than everyone else. That's pretty egotistical.


Posted by: WSJFGBSJLFGBvdjd
There are many players in the top 1% like myself. How is saying i'm in the top 1% egotistical? Are you saying that if I told you I was in the bottom 1% I would be egotistical as well?

At what percent do I become an egotistical jerk because of my skill level?I never stated that stating that you are in the top 1% is egotistical. You are taking a statement which I made earlier, and gave examples for, and explicitly said had no relation to whatever came after, and made a relation to something that came after it. Claiming that you are in the top 1% is not really egotistical, what it is though, is baseless. Where is the proof. Frankly, you've been throwing around the phrase top 99% as if it's fact. Don't make absolutely baseless remarks to further your argument. I know somewhere in your thread you said that even the casuals agree with you. The casuals who will start getting "slaughtered in bewilderment". Somehow I disagree.

To be honest, after all this, I'd be interested to play you in a game of "MLG" H3. I'm tired of the abuse to less skilled players. You know why? I was a scrub once, a total noob, I probably had something like a .25 K/D. But I worked at it, I played Halo a lot. And recently, I switched gamertags, and now, while not being great or anything, I have around a 1.5 K/D. I know what it's like to suck. And, well... it sucks. And those people want the experience of Halo, without the being trampled and abused by jerks. Yes, I think you're a jerk. At first I was willing to give you a chance, after the OP, but you consistently demean lesser players, make baseless statements to further your arguments, and, in a roundabout way, show that you'd have 99% of the population of Halo players have a less enjoyable experience than you. Without even linking your gamertag. If you're a troll, good job, you baited me. But if you are a troll, you're the best troll I've ever seen. I don't think you're a troll. I just think you're a jerk. I won't be responding to any more of your replies, but if anyone agrees with me, you can PM me.

-BCB-

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Posted by: Nemesis87
^^^
Sheer awesomeness. And from a "better," player too.

...not really awesomeness because anyone with an IQ over 7 could already tell he was being egotistical. Also, why bother brining up the fact that he was a better player anyway? It doesn't do the argument any more justice than it did before, because as I said, anyone could tell he was being egotistical.

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Okay.

First of all.

I dont care if you think I am a jerk.

How nice I am does not affect the credibility of my argument.

Top 99%. Me. Fact. Get it?

I am BETTER at getting kills than 99%.

EASILY.

Having 1 50 in H3 puts you in the top 99.9%. I have multiple 50's. Where does that put me.

Top 99% is an UNDER-estimate. Just to be safe.

I dont care if you think I am a jerk, or even if you think I hate casuals.

The sad part is that I wasnt trying to make myself look like I am good at halo to people on the internet.

I was simply explaining why lesser skilled players will likely not notice a slower paced game.

Do you people not get it?

NOT EVERYONE IS THE SAME SKILL.

GET OVER IT.

In H2 if it was lvl50 vs lvl 10, the level 10 would get slaughtered. In H:Reach, the level 10 would just armor lock.

Your whole defense is based on lesser players getting slaughtered.

But we have true skill.

Jesus.

If I wanted to play a game where my actions didnt determine what happened or the outcomes I would go play slots.

If one person does something better than another, the results should be different. The person who does these things better, should win or be given an advantage.

This is not the case in Reach.

The player who moves about the map skillfully gets killed by the kid crouching in the corner (which takes no movement skill).

The player who times his shots gets killed by the player who spamms.

The player who strafes and hits all of his shots gets a mutual kill with the person who didnt strafe, because strafing is so slow in this game.






These are the points you should be arguing. Not whether or not my argument is credible because I think and actually am better at the game than you are.

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OP is 100% right. every fanboy here sucks at halo, and needs to get off of bungies dong

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Posted by: Khazidhea
OP is 100% right. every fanboy here sucks at halo, and needs to get off of bungies dong
Well, that was sheer knowledge brought down on wings of golden dragons.

Because abusing the game developers and saying "Listen here, motehrf***er, this is how it should be done!" it totally the way to get the point across.

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I completely agree. 100%

I fooled myself into thinking I loved this game - I did not. Bungie has a lot to fix...And I hope to god that they do, I love Halo, and this isn't the definitive Halo experience.

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Posted by: TLau3789
Plus, last time i checked you can still play H2.

Yeah, over LAN or lolXBC.

If they released Halo 2 for XBL Arcade and I could just go play that, I sure wouldn't be on these forums because I'd be too busy playing it...

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Posted by: Unit F10
If you're truly so much better than the person with armor lock, you should be able to kill them anyway.

Trueskill wasn't always reliable, I would sometimes get paired up with people who would anihilate me with the BR, other times I would get paired up with someone who couln't hit the broadside of a barn with it.

If strafing doesn't work, then stop doing it. I hear crouching reduces reticle bloom, and I still havent experienced the people who could spam the trigger and hit me just as efficiently at long range, perhaps at medium range where the rounds don't spread as much anyway.

Yes this does encourage camping more, but it's a more realistice style of gameplay. Yes, we are supersoldiers, but even the SPARTANS were trained not to rely solely on their superior tech, they recognize that they still die if they get hit with enough bullets and we should as well.

Yes Reach has a slower style of gameplay, but I don't realy see why that's such a huge problem.

I guess I just have inferior thought-process, right? Sorry for not having the required hand-eye coordination to land every single BR round in my opponents face, but there are different styles of skill than precision fire, and what Reach does is it expands the variety of playstyle. Not only the marksman wins, if someone uses sprint and cover well enough, they can close the distance on the sniper and take them down in CQC. In medium rnage, the exact weapon used and the way it is used determines the victor; if it is AR vs plasma repeater, the AR guy will be smart and keep more range while the Plasma repeater guy closes in for a more effective shot.

Reach has many small differences and variable in it as well, and while I don't truly remember my few H2 days, I definately appreciate Reach more than H3 because of its variety.

Sorry if not enjoying getting killed in 4 shots by the BR makes me a noob.

True skill is reliable enough for you to not be able to make the skill gap out as an excuse for dumbing down the game.

I did stop strafing. But then the skill gap is gone, and I the fact that I have better aim and strafe is now irrelevant. THATS RETARDED.

THIS IS A FPS. AIM SHOULD BE RELEVANT.

Halo was good, special, because it wasnt realistic. Because it DIDNT promote camping and slow gameplay.

They should have SPED UP gameplay for reach, not slowed it down.

Of course there are different styles of skill. They should all be relevant. They have always been relevant. Now they arent.

http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=44387207&v iewreplies=true#end

See?

Argue that.

It is safe to say I know a fair bit more about the balance than you do buddy.

And people armor lock, and then thier friend comes in, then I armor lock, and my friend comes in. Thats stale gameplay and it isnt fun.

Everyone shouldnt be handed a "delay death for 7 seconds" card upon spawning.

It is one thing to have AA as a pickup that 1 player can equip per map, that you can pick up off of someones body when you kill them, but giving it to everyone just makes for stale gameplay.

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The thing with almost everyone of the players that dislike Reach, is that you're not opening up to Reach. It has so much more potential than any other game Bungie has made, and maybe even all video games. Just think of all the things Bungie can do with Reach, but no, you want the same thing as you've had for years.

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If you totally believe in everything you are saying then tell us why you hate reach, because so far you have not given us many reasons.

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Posted by: SoapyKnight
If you totally believe in everything you are saying then tell us why you hate reach, because so far you have not given us many reasons.

Did I ever say reach sucks?

No.

Seriously kids. If you are 12 then just GTFO. This thread isnt for you.

Learn to read before you use the internet.

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Posted by: WSJFGBSJLFGBvdjd

Must be nice having everyone do work for you.
So pretty much;
-Remove or heavily remake the reticule bloom
-Remove or heavily limit Armor Abilities
-Remove non-regenerative (even though you regenerate three bars) health and the need for healthpacks
-Increase Movement Speed
-Increase Jump Height

Did I miss anything?

Question: What the hell is "Enhanced Radar?" You failed to explain that little nugget.

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Posted by: Nemesis87
Posted by: WSJFGBSJLFGBvdjd

Must be nice having everyone do work for you.
So pretty much;
-Remove or heavily remake the reticule bloom
-Remove or heavily limit Armor Abilities
-Remove non-regenerative (even though you regenerate three bars) health and the need for healthpacks
-Increase Movement Speed
-Increase Jump Height

Did I miss anything?

Question: What the hell is "Enhanced Radar?" You failed to explain that little nugget.


No, I did the work for everyone.

Instead of digging through hundereds of threads, I linked the best of the very best, right here.

Lol you dont know what enhanced radar is because you dont play very much H3.

Enhanced radar is a setting in H3 so that when you crouch you still show up on radar.

Personally, I think that the motion sensor is silly past level 35 in MM, because it is just a crutch.

Crutches, bloom, AA, etc is FINE and GOOD for casual gameplay, but their MUST be a way to turn it off as it absolutely RUINS competitive gameplay.

When I searched 4's with my MLG team in reach (all onyx class), literally every game we played on sword base ended up turning into a huge stale mate, because it is soooooo easy to set up on that map and movement speeds are so slow you could not approach your enemy without exposing yourself on a bridge and getting spanked by nade-shot.

You people really dont understand. Good players lock maps like this down.

Like THEY LOCK THAT -blam!- DOWN.

You cant just run across a bridge and not get team-shotted.

The game literally devolves into every single move a player makes being based on spawning of power weapons. The game becomes a game of chess.

H2 had emphasis on power weapons but gameplay never came to a halt like it does consistently in competitive matches of reach.

[Edited on 05.20.2010 11:50 PM PDT]