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Subject: Halo Reach...Why Bungie???

Spartanblade86

Alright Bungie, like many others, I too have played Halo from the very beginning. Oh how I recall the day I first picked up that old XBox game, "Halo: Combat Evolved". Seeing the Master Chief clad in his green Mjolnir Mark V armor blowing covenant away with his trusty Assault Rifle. I thought I had seen it all until Halo 2 came out, and then 3. These have to be some of the greatest, most challenging games Ive ever played. When you guys announced Halo Reach, no doubt I was ecstatic. But low and behold, what awaited me in the Halo Reach BETA???

Slow gameplay, overpowered weapons, too much of a likeness to Call of Duty. What is this garbage? Why Bungie, Why? I never would've expected this kind of mediocrity from you. Im not saying the game is completely horrible, it's just that I was expecting something great, as in something that would top Halo 3. And I tried to really like it, honestly I did, but the painful fact of the matter is, I just CAN'T. All I can say about it, is that it's "OKAY". And I'm deeply sorry Bungie, but with all of those facts in mind, I'm now going to cancel my pre-order on this game. It hurts me to do it, but a game like this is not worth that kind of hype. I hope you realize the alarming number of people that would agree with me here and cancel there pre-orders as well. Maybe that will help you see that something is wrong, and you need to change. Anyway, that's all I have. When this Fall rolls around, I'll be on Halo 3. Good luck Bungie, You will need it.

  • 05.20.2010 12:38 PM PDT
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Campaign is my favourite, and I know it will be awesome. Multiplayer on the other hand, its fun. I don't play Halo for the wins, I play it for the fun(s?)

  • 05.20.2010 12:40 PM PDT
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Posted by: roraj 196
Campaign is my favourite, and I know it will be awesome. Multiplayer on the other hand, its fun. I don't play Halo for the wins, I play it for the fun(s?)


You've never won in your life have you? Otherwise, it's one of life's greater moments and is totally awesome.

  • 05.20.2010 12:41 PM PDT
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Posted by: Meteor78
You were not supposed to post yet...

Posted by: Spartanblade86
overpowered weapons
The elite rocket stuff is overpowered, all other weapons is underpowered if anything.

  • 05.20.2010 12:42 PM PDT
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Spartanblade86

So do I, But I just can't bring myself to enjoy Reach the same way I enjoy 2, or 3. Campaign may very well be the only thing Reach will have going for it.

  • 05.20.2010 12:42 PM PDT
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Prepare for the hate my friend. People will not like your topic.
I agree and also disagree with you. I too have over hyped this Beta for myself and unfortunately it didnt live up to what I felt would be a small MM experience that would destroy all others before it. I'm sorry to say but this Beta gave me a bad taste in my mouth. It was fun, don't get me worng but my overall experience has led me to downgrade my preorder from legendary to standard edition. Come fall I will be playing this game, alot, but I am most excited for the campaign now. I truly believe these " aditions" to reach will play really well in campagn. I can not explain how stocked I am to shoot -blam!- up with the DMR and pistol. Thanks Bungie for your work these last 17 days and good luck, Because I do believe there are many people truly hating on this game.

  • 05.20.2010 12:44 PM PDT
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Just going to throw this out there.

Just because you've played Halo CE doesn't mean anybody cares any more about your opinion than anybody elses. More than half of the people on this forum have played all of the Halo's. It doesn't mean anything people so stop thinking that it does.

Also, just because in your mind you think a lot of people are canceling pre-orders doesn't mean they ACTUALLY are. Stop believing your own lies.

One last thing. If you don't like this game and think it isn't what a Halo game should be, then don't buy it or go back to Halo 1, 2, or even 3. I hear they all are still very fun to play.


Good to you, sir.

  • 05.20.2010 12:46 PM PDT
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Posted by: Spartanblade86
So do I, But I just can't bring myself to enjoy Reach the same way I enjoy 2, or 3. Campaign may very well be the only thing Reach will have going for it.


If the campaign is anything like Halo 3/ODST than this game will be the biggest epic fail in history.

  • 05.20.2010 12:47 PM PDT
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Posted by: Spartanblade86
Slow gameplay, overpowered weapons, too much of a likeness to Call of Duty


I've always found "survivable chaos" to be a central facet to Halo's gameplay that I don't see in other FPSs (certainly not Call of Duty). For me, Reach extends that and removed a lot of the arcade-shooter feel that had crept in to Halo 2 and Halo 3. If they continue to balance out and refine the gameplay, it should be quite enjoyable this Fall.

I think you're taking this way too hard. It was an unfinished beta that was really amazingly well assembled, and I feel sorry for you if that's not what you saw. You also haven't seen any Campaign gameplay, and if it's anything like they say it will be, it should be the best yet. I hope you change your mind and grab a copy on release day.

Charlie Hotel would want you to!

  • 05.20.2010 12:49 PM PDT
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Posted by: coltcity
Posted by: Spartanblade86
So do I, But I just can't bring myself to enjoy Reach the same way I enjoy 2, or 3. Campaign may very well be the only thing Reach will have going for it.


If the campaign is anything like Halo 3/ODST than this game will be the biggest epic fail in history.


I enjoyed both campaigns. Your logic is flawed.

  • 05.20.2010 12:50 PM PDT
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Spartanblade86

Ninja obviously didn't read my whole topic and therefore, doesn't realize how stupid he sounds. you sir, are a TROLL.

  • 05.20.2010 12:50 PM PDT
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I agree somethings in the game are either overpowered or underpowered. But, I hope Bungie will fix all of these things by Fall.

  • 05.20.2010 12:50 PM PDT
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my gamertag is dandark 6 but i cant link it

Therefore whoever desires peace let him prepare for war.

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Posted by: roraj 196
Campaign is my favourite, and I know it will be awesome. Multiplayer on the other hand, its fun. I don't play Halo for the wins, I play it for the fun(s?)


You've never won in your life have you? Otherwise, it's one of life's greater moments and is totally awesome.


Shocking fact, although winning is fun it has been reported by some crazed people that there can be more fun to be had than winning.
Do not panic, we have alerted authoritys and they have sent out search and destroy teams to find these insane fanatics who would like other forms of fun other than winning by any means possible.

  • 05.20.2010 12:51 PM PDT
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See me with my flames during Fall!

Posted by: coltcity
Posted by: Spartanblade86
So do I, But I just can't bring myself to enjoy Reach the same way I enjoy 2, or 3. Campaign may very well be the only thing Reach will have going for it.


If the campaign is anything like Halo 3/ODST than this game will be the biggest epic fail in history.


Actually, I found the ODST campaign to be a decent one. I mean, the story didn't really pick up until you found DARE, because you were just having "visions". It wasn't all that bad for a game that was suppose to be DLC. Halo Reach will be truly epic.

  • 05.20.2010 12:51 PM PDT
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my gamertag is dandark 6 but i cant link it

Therefore whoever desires peace let him prepare for war.

Posted by: Sceptical Ninja
Just going to throw this out there.

Just because you've played Halo CE doesn't mean anybody cares any more about your opinion than anybody elses. More than half of the people on this forum have played all of the Halo's. It doesn't mean anything people so stop thinking that it does.

Also, just because in your mind you think a lot of people are canceling pre-orders doesn't mean they ACTUALLY are. Stop believing your own lies.

One last thing. If you don't like this game and think it isn't what a Halo game should be, then don't buy it or go back to Halo 1, 2, or even 3. I hear they all are still very fun to play.


Good to you, sir.


BY THE GODS!!! He is right people. Someone is actully trying to express their opinion on a forum dedicated to opinions on an upcoming game. What a fool. He is not entitled to an opinion and clearly the fact he played other Halos doesn't matter at all to whether or not this game is like other Halos.

/End sarcasm

Please try to look less like a troll. People do care about his opinion, I care about his opinion otherwise I would not have commented. I agree with him mostly but think he is just a bit let down after over hyping it. Its only a beta after all.
However they could do some balancing to the multiplayer and no matter how imbalanced anything that improves stealth and the sword is great IMO. But I am not allowed to speak my opinion right Ninja?

  • 05.20.2010 12:56 PM PDT
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Posted by: Spartanblade86
Ninja obviously didn't read my whole topic and therefore, doesn't realize how stupid he sounds. you sir, are a TROLL.


Learn to quote. When you make a comment it's below the box your text goes in right next to the "cancel" button. It helps a lot.

I am not a troll. A troll is someone who says a certain thing in order to get a certain bad reaction out of others and get them banned/warned. I was simply letting you know that you, along with many others, thinking that Halo Reach plays like "OMG TEH CALL OF DUTY" is dumb because they are two totally different games. And if you don't like the way Halo Reach is it's own Halo game and not a re-packaged Halo 3 copy then you can feel free to go back to Halo 3 my friend. Bungie said this themselves in a Weekly Update, "Go ahead you won't be missed".

  • 05.20.2010 12:57 PM PDT
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"Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind." - Albert Einstien

While I agree with some of your points as a Halo fan. It terms of gameplay, this game is quite interesting and again innovative. Bungie continues to evolve and develop much of the FPS philosophies beyond what others have.

  • 05.20.2010 12:58 PM PDT
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Posted by: dandark 6
Posted by: Sceptical Ninja
Just going to throw this out there.

Just because you've played Halo CE doesn't mean anybody cares any more about your opinion than anybody elses. More than half of the people on this forum have played all of the Halo's. It doesn't mean anything people so stop thinking that it does.

Also, just because in your mind you think a lot of people are canceling pre-orders doesn't mean they ACTUALLY are. Stop believing your own lies.

One last thing. If you don't like this game and think it isn't what a Halo game should be, then don't buy it or go back to Halo 1, 2, or even 3. I hear they all are still very fun to play.


Good to you, sir.


BY THE GODS!!! He is right people. Someone is actully trying to express their opinion on a forum dedicated to opinions on an upcoming game. What a fool. He is not entitled to an opinion and clearly the fact he played other Halos doesn't matter at all to whether or not this game is like other Halos.

/End sarcasm

Please try to look less like a troll. People do care about his opinion, I care about his opinion otherwise I would not have commented. I agree with him mostly but think he is just a bit let down after over hyping it. Its only a beta after all.
However they could do some balancing to the multiplayer and no matter how imbalanced anything that improves stealth and the sword is great IMO. But I am not allowed to speak my opinion right Ninja?


There's nothing wrong with expressing your opinion. That's not what I was complaining about my good sir. I was saying that he has other options as oppose to posting the same negative feedback that every other hater seems to post. Bungie aren't going to go back to Halo 3 style gameplay and OP knows that so there's not point in complaining about it. Using the searchbar also helps when wanting to hate on an awesome game. You know, so you can see how many other guys don't like the game because it's "TOO MUCH LIKE CALL OF DUTY IT HAS GUNS AND NOT SUPER SPEED WAHHHHHH".

[Edited on 05.20.2010 1:02 PM PDT]

  • 05.20.2010 1:01 PM PDT
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my gamertag is dandark 6 but i cant link it

Therefore whoever desires peace let him prepare for war.

Posted by: Sceptical Ninja
Posted by: dandark 6
Posted by: Sceptical Ninja
Just going to throw this out there.

Just because you've played Halo CE doesn't mean anybody cares any more about your opinion than anybody elses. More than half of the people on this forum have played all of the Halo's. It doesn't mean anything people so stop thinking that it does.

Also, just because in your mind you think a lot of people are canceling pre-orders doesn't mean they ACTUALLY are. Stop believing your own lies.

One last thing. If you don't like this game and think it isn't what a Halo game should be, then don't buy it or go back to Halo 1, 2, or even 3. I hear they all are still very fun to play.


Good to you, sir.


BY THE GODS!!! He is right people. Someone is actully trying to express their opinion on a forum dedicated to opinions on an upcoming game. What a fool. He is not entitled to an opinion and clearly the fact he played other Halos doesn't matter at all to whether or not this game is like other Halos.

/End sarcasm

Please try to look less like a troll. People do care about his opinion, I care about his opinion otherwise I would not have commented. I agree with him mostly but think he is just a bit let down after over hyping it. Its only a beta after all.
However they could do some balancing to the multiplayer and no matter how imbalanced anything that improves stealth and the sword is great IMO. But I am not allowed to speak my opinion right Ninja?


There's nothing wrong with expressing your opinion. That's not what I was complaining about my good sir. I was saying that he has other options as oppose to posting the same negative feedback that every other hater seems to post. Bungie aren't going to go back to Halo 3 style gameplay and OP knows that so there's not point in complaining about it. Using the searchbar also helps when wanting to hate on an awesome game. You know, so you can see how many other guys don't like the game because it's "TOO MUCH LIKE CALL OF DUTY IT HAS GUNS AND NOT SUPER SPEED WAHHHHHH".


Ok I see where your coming from now and I agree.
Sorry but your first post made it look like you were saying he didn't deserve his opinion. I do agree with you though, its getting really annoying now to see "Its like COD, we arn't super humans wah wah"

  • 05.20.2010 1:04 PM PDT
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I find the gameplay faster than prievious halos, reload times are quicker, you can srint and grenade throws haven't got massiv delays. I haven't found a single over powered weapon and the only bits Bungie has vaguely used from COD are the only decent bits, ie sprint, classes and unlocks.

So i just wanna say.
keep up the good work Bungie Reach is going to own every game that's ever existed.

  • 05.20.2010 1:08 PM PDT
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Posted by: dandark 6

Ok I see where your coming from now and I agree.
Sorry but your first post made it look like you were saying he didn't deserve his opinion. I do agree with you though, its getting really annoying now to see "Its like COD, we arn't super humans wah wah"


I'm glad you see where I'm coming from instead of just flaming me. The OP is entitled to his own opinion but I would like him to post why he doesn't like the game not just "Gameplay is slow and looks like Call of Duty blah blah blah".

  • 05.20.2010 1:08 PM PDT
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Spartanblade86

[/quote]I think you're taking this way too hard. It was an unfinished beta that was really amazingly well assembled, and I feel sorry for you if that's not what you saw. You also haven't seen any Campaign gameplay, and if it's anything like they say it will be, it should be the best yet. I hope you change your mind and grab a copy on release day.

Charlie Hotel would want you to![/quote]

I will either rent it, or buy it when it's price goes down.

[Edited on 05.20.2010 8:26 PM PDT]

  • 05.20.2010 8:25 PM PDT
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(Roflknife goes SLICESLICESLEICSLEICSLICE
lololol)

Hold your judgements until the retail hits, not everything is written in stone.

Some of you guys are too quick to bash not realizing what a test is, why, if you hadn't made the conscious decision to comment on the game's play speed, then Bungie probably would keep it how it is assuming that they read these threads, OP.

[Edited on 05.20.2010 8:31 PM PDT]

  • 05.20.2010 8:27 PM PDT
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Spartanblade86

Posted by: VirulentStrife
Hold your judgements until the retail hits, not everything is written in stone.

Some of you guys are too quick to bash not realizing what a test is, why, if you hadn't made the conscious decision to comment on the game's play speed, then Bungie probably would keep it how it is assuming that they read these threads, OP.


Exactly, and you know that's really my reason for even posting at all, to let bungie know what is wrong and how it needs to change. Thinking about it now, I did get a little carried away and went overboard with the OP. Either way, all it really is are my final thoughts on the beta. I'm still just considering canceling my preorder. It's not a definate decision yet, and it may never be I don't know. I DO know I'm so not going Legendary with this one. Standard will do just fine for me.

  • 05.20.2010 8:46 PM PDT
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wow dude, its a -blam!- beta. This is not the final game. i hope you do cancel your pre order, so that you can realize later that hey, the game isnt the same as the beta was...and its better than halo 3. personally i like halo reach more than halo 3 because it requires skill with the bloom. no more noobs spraying and praying. i feel like im lagging a lot less too, like its halo 2 again. feels so great. i have not been killed around a corner or through a corner yet and sometimes when i shoot someone it actually hits them instead of lag just saying hey, he was there on your screen but on hosts screen he wasnt.

[Edited on 05.20.2010 9:12 PM PDT]

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