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Subject: Halo Reach...Why Bungie???

For the love of me, I tried to see the complaints about overpowered weapons and slower gameplay many people expressed, I honestly tried to see it from their perspective, but I couldn't. When you have sprint, jetpacks, cloaking, and nuke grenades, nothing is slow. Sure some dude may Armor Lock himself, but it never really threw me off or slowed me down, a simple grenade toss or Assassination killed the foe.

And as for overpowered weapons, what constitutes overpowered? The Rocket Launcher, Spartan Laser, Plasma Grenade Launcher, and Focus Rifle are POWER weapons for a reason. Everything else was balanced nicely, I could use the AR, shotgun, DMR, and everything else to great effect anytime.

What am I supposed to agree with you on?

  • 05.20.2010 9:30 PM PDT
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Halo 2 player until the end. Halo 3 will just never replace it, I am sorry Bungie but I know you can do better.
I'm a girl, get over it and move on.

Halo 2 Support!
I miss it so....

I simply never pre-ordered the game
However there is never a moment in my mind where I debate purchasing the pre-order.
There is always that chance that Bungie will do a complete overhaul of the game... You never know it could be better...
Another part of me has read the books and played the games... (Games before books of course, though not really on purpose) ;)
The vidoc of the main game (or what I saw as I assume it was a piece from the main game) Fills me with dismay. If your going back in time Bungie... you better think about what your doing...
I don't like the melee of halo 3, however I too may be on there from time to time (in specific game types given my current 'hate' of it)

  • 05.20.2010 10:19 PM PDT
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The thing that many people are not getting is:
1. It is the Halo Reach BETA the game will be changed atleast somewhat.
2. Reach is not Halo 1,2,or 3 it is Reach
3. The game, for me and many other players, is very balanced and well thought out.
4. The DMR is not the BR
5. In reach you are not a bunch of Master Cheifs
6. The AAs are very balanced.

  • 05.20.2010 10:44 PM PDT
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Spartanblade86

Posted by: Go Vader

What am I supposed to agree with you on?

It's just my opinion. If you don't agree with it, that's fine.

  • 05.20.2010 10:48 PM PDT
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Posted by: Spartanblade86
Anyway, that's all I have. When this Fall rolls around, I'll be on Halo 3. Good luck Bungie, You will need it.


If anyone needs luck it's you trying to find a match in Halo 3 matchmaking when Halo: Reach hits shelves.

  • 05.20.2010 10:51 PM PDT
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Spartanblade86

Posted by: SoapyKnight

5. In reach you are not a bunch of Master Cheifs

But you are still spartans, not ODSTs or human soldiers. They should jump higher and run faster(without sprinting), and they shouldn't have bloom on their reticules. When this comes out, Im gonna make a custom game with increased speed and low gravity, and call it "REAL Spartans" lol!!

  • 05.20.2010 10:59 PM PDT
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I find it really hard to believe that you are going to cancel a pre-order for a halo game just because of a beta. It was made so bungie could figure out what needed changing and tweeking. Some armour abilities and guns need work but bungie will use our data from the beta to fix the balancing problems. I GUARANTEE that you will have the game and play it the day it comes out if you care enough to type on this forum.

  • 05.20.2010 11:00 PM PDT
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Spartanblade86

Posted by: blyx
Posted by: Spartanblade86
Anyway, that's all I have. When this Fall rolls around, I'll be on Halo 3. Good luck Bungie, You will need it.


If anyone needs luck it's you trying to find a match in Halo 3 matchmaking when Halo: Reach hits shelves.

Trust me, There will still be thousands.

  • 05.20.2010 11:01 PM PDT
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Posted by: SoapyKnight
The thing that many people are not getting is:
1. It is the Halo Reach BETA the game will be changed atleast somewhat.
2. Reach is not Halo 1,2,or 3 it is Reach
3. The game, for me and many other players, is very balanced and well thought out.
4. The DMR is not the BR
5. In reach you are not a bunch of Master Cheifs
6. The AAs are very balanced.


It's a spinoff... like Fraiser was a spinoff of Cheers. Anyways it seems like you pretty much nailed the flaws of the Reach beta, well done

  • 05.20.2010 11:01 PM PDT
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Spartanblade86

Posted by: I Blacksh33p I
I find it really hard to believe that you are going to cancel a pre-order for a halo game just because of a beta. It was made so bungie could figure out what needed changing and tweeking. Some armour abilities and guns need work but bungie will use our data from the beta to fix the balancing problems. I GUARANTEE that you will have the game and play it the day it comes out if you care enough to type on this forum.

I was only thinking about canceling, and I think I've chosen not to so...

  • 05.20.2010 11:04 PM PDT
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Spartanblade86

Posted by: APassingShadow
Posted by: SoapyKnight
The thing that many people are not getting is:
1. It is the Halo Reach BETA the game will be changed atleast somewhat.
2. Reach is not Halo 1,2,or 3 it is Reach
3. The game, for me and many other players, is very balanced and well thought out.
4. The DMR is not the BR
5. In reach you are not a bunch of Master Cheifs
6. The AAs are very balanced.



It's a spinoff... like Fraiser was a spinoff of Cheers. Anyways it seems like you pretty much nailed the flaws of the Reach beta, well done

100% agreed, high five

[Edited on 05.20.2010 11:07 PM PDT]

  • 05.20.2010 11:06 PM PDT
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Good, don't. I have done the same thing in the past and it is just a waste of time. I'm just saying there is a prolly a 99% chance that anyone talking about the beta on this forum will buy the video game.

[Edited on 05.20.2010 11:09 PM PDT]

  • 05.20.2010 11:09 PM PDT
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Spartanblade86

Posted by: I THE VIPER I
i hope you do cancel your pre order, so that you can realize later that hey, the game isnt the same as the beta was...and its better than halo 3.

First off, it won't be better than Halo 3, that I promise you. Secondly, I hope they change the game up to where skilless n00bs like you can't get kills by spraying and praying and spamming nades anymore and you get raped at every turn. hahaha

  • 05.20.2010 11:20 PM PDT
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Only by losing everything are you free to do anything

Halo Reach feels NOTHING like CoD... I don't know why people keep saying that.

  • 05.20.2010 11:23 PM PDT
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Posted by: xreva
Halo Reach feels NOTHING like CoD... I don't know why people keep saying that.


Your guy jumps like CoD
Your guy is weak like CoD
People camp like CoD
Your guy throws grenades like CoD

  • 05.20.2010 11:26 PM PDT
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Posted by: Sceptical Ninja
Just going to throw this out there.

Just because you've played Halo CE doesn't mean anybody cares any more about your opinion than anybody elses. More than half of the people on this forum have played all of the Halo's. It doesn't mean anything people so stop thinking that it does.

Also, just because in your mind you think a lot of people are canceling pre-orders doesn't mean they ACTUALLY are. Stop believing your own lies.

One last thing. If you don't like this game and think it isn't what a Halo game should be, then don't buy it or go back to Halo 1, 2, or even 3. I hear they all are still very fun to play.


Good to you, sir.


When people say "played all the halos" it means different things. Most people beat the campaigns and then played maybe 100 to 500 games of multi-player over 3 years. People who think reach is a bunch of -blam!- are the people who really played the halos as in thousands and thousands of games of Halo CE, H2, and H3 multi-player.

I agree with OP.

  • 05.20.2010 11:30 PM PDT
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IMA CHARGIN' MAH LAZOR
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SHOOP DA WHOOP

Posted by: roraj 196
Campaign is my favourite, and I know it will be awesome. Multiplayer on the other hand, its fun. I don't play Halo for the wins, I play it for the fun(s?)

For the 'lulz', is the Internet term used there.

To the OP:

Fair enough. Opinions are like asses. Everyone has one.

But on the "more CoD-like" front... No.
In Call of Duty, you may create your own class, across a variety of roles. Same thing for Battlefield, but less customisable.

I'd pit Halo Reach closer to Star Wars Battlefront. You are given set classes to chose from, with different, clearly distinguishable roles, advantages, and disadvantages. It is fair, unlike the aforementioned class system.

  • 05.21.2010 12:15 AM PDT
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IMA CHARGIN' MAH LAZOR
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Posted by: APassingShadow
Posted by: xreva
Halo Reach feels NOTHING like CoD... I don't know why people keep saying that.


Your guy jumps like CoD
Your guy is weak like CoD
People camp like CoD
Your guy throws grenades like CoD

You can't vault random objects.
You can can take a minimum of 5 shots; that's about the CoD maximum.
I have seen one camper in 225 games. And that was due to the 'competitive' nature of Arena. Competitive gameplay is like a plague. It ruins games. That is one area where I HATE Reach, is Arena. It's not fair that I have to go up against a team of whores trying to increase their division to, OMG, silver, in order for me to have something to say when someone asks "What's your Division?". I gave up, and have had a growing hate for competitive gameplay since MW2. It changes people. Story at the bottom.
I can't see any similarities in grenades, but you get the benefit of the doubt here.

OK, the MW2 Story. (OPTIONAL to READ)
Me and my mate (I have given up on CoD for 2 months now, but he still plays it) decided to get together and play Team Doubles. We were given Construct, and upon spawning near the 'waterfall' side, we ran up to the Sword. He turned to me and said, "Oh, look, jump up here", and we jumped off the ledge to a small alcove in the wall. He looked around, and told me a statement that I game, and argue here, by; "Y'know, I never would've found this if I hadn't played Modern Warfare".
Modern Warfare is the centre of competitive gaming. It's all about ranking up, getting to tenth prestige, and cutting as many throats as you need to get there. Arena is Halo's Modern Whorefair. I have accumulated a hate for 'competitive' gaming ever since; therefore, I do not take "Does not Cater to Competitive Gamers" threads seriously. It's a game. Nothing more.
/Wall of Story. Sorry for wasting forum space.
(Hey, that's going to be my new 'signature'...)

  • 05.21.2010 12:29 AM PDT
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-Reach

(I swear it has nothing to do with Halo Reach)

Posted by: Spartanblade86
Alright Bungie, like many others, I too have played Halo from the very beginning. Oh how I recall the day I first picked up that old XBox game, "Halo: Combat Evolved". Seeing the Master Chief clad in his green Mjolnir Mark V armor blowing covenant away with his trusty Assault Rifle. I thought I had seen it all until Halo 2 came out, and then 3. These have to be some of the greatest, most challenging games Ive ever played. When you guys announced Halo Reach, no doubt I was ecstatic. But low and behold, what awaited me in the Halo Reach BETA???

Slow gameplay, overpowered weapons, too much of a likeness to Call of Duty. What is this garbage? Why Bungie, Why? I never would've expected this kind of mediocrity from you. Im not saying the game is completely horrible, it's just that I was expecting something great, as in something that would top Halo 3. And I tried to really like it, honestly I did, but the painful fact of the matter is, I just CAN'T. All I can say about it, is that it's "OKAY". And I'm deeply sorry Bungie, but with all of those facts in mind, I'm now going to cancel my pre-order on this game. It hurts me to do it, but a game like this is not worth that kind of hype. I hope you realize the alarming number of people that would agree with me here and cancel there pre-orders as well. Maybe that will help you see that something is wrong, and you need to change. Anyway, that's all I have. When this Fall rolls around, I'll be on Halo 3. Good luck Bungie, You will need it.

Pick up Halo CE again and use the pistol. That will redefine "overpowered" for you.

  • 05.21.2010 1:23 AM PDT
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i just want to play the campaign, after playing the beta im not impressed

  • 05.21.2010 1:30 AM PDT
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Team Skepsis are the best

Posted by: GP Bambi
i just want to play the campaign, after playing the beta im not impressed

  • 05.21.2010 1:33 AM PDT
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Posted by: ChuggaaConr0y
Posted by: roraj 196
Campaign is my favourite, and I know it will be awesome. Multiplayer on the other hand, its fun. I don't play Halo for the wins, I play it for the fun(s?)


You've never won in your life have you? Otherwise, it's one of life's greater moments and is totally awesome.

Conroy, I think you're missing the point, by a large margin.

  • 05.21.2010 1:45 AM PDT
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Spartanblade86

Posted by: reach17
Posted by: Spartanblade86
Alright Bungie, like many others, I too have played Halo from the very beginning. Oh how I recall the day I first picked up that old XBox game, "Halo: Combat Evolved". Seeing the Master Chief clad in his green Mjolnir Mark V armor blowing covenant away with his trusty Assault Rifle. I thought I had seen it all until Halo 2 came out, and then 3. These have to be some of the greatest, most challenging games Ive ever played. When you guys announced Halo Reach, no doubt I was ecstatic. But low and behold, what awaited me in the Halo Reach BETA???

Slow gameplay, overpowered weapons, too much of a likeness to Call of Duty. What is this garbage? Why Bungie, Why? I never would've expected this kind of mediocrity from you. Im not saying the game is completely horrible, it's just that I was expecting something great, as in something that would top Halo 3. And I tried to really like it, honestly I did, but the painful fact of the matter is, I just CAN'T. All I can say about it, is that it's "OKAY". And I'm deeply sorry Bungie, but with all of those facts in mind, I'm now going to cancel my pre-order on this game. It hurts me to do it, but a game like this is not worth that kind of hype. I hope you realize the alarming number of people that would agree with me here and cancel there pre-orders as well. Maybe that will help you see that something is wrong, and you need to change. Anyway, that's all I have. When this Fall rolls around, I'll be on Halo 3. Good luck Bungie, You will need it.

Pick up Halo CE again and use the pistol. That will redefine "overpowered" for you.

I was talking more about the grenades and the assault rifle being overpowered more than anything. The pistol was awesome, as well as the sniper, rocket launcher, DMR, and sword.

  • 05.21.2010 8:54 AM PDT
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I hunt for the Prophet of Contentment, the San 'Shyumm that murdered my son, and stole his birthright, his Energy Sword. They call our species Heretics. They claim to all that our tongues sting, our words a vile poison that feeds on the unworthy. I have seen the true face of Heresy. The head of a gallant warrior lay on the ground. His neck scorched and blistered, scarred by his own blade. I shall retrieve the weapon, and drive it through that bastard's heart! Punishment for his sins is nigh.

Did you just call Halo Challenging?

Its fun, and offers a tough fight to those inexperienced in First Person Shooters. But it is hardly Challenging in any regard.

You should try Megaman, Street Fighter, or Starcraft.



BUT, I do agree on topic that things are different. And Reach isn't the game I got MY xbox for. HOWEVER. I must say, that I will get used to it, and learn to love it, when the full game comes out. Because the full game is ALWAYS more fun than the Beta.

[Edited on 05.21.2010 9:18 AM PDT]

  • 05.21.2010 9:17 AM PDT
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I totally agree with this statement. Thank god i didnt pre order the game yet. I may just rent it for the campaign. Never thought i would say that but there it is

  • 05.21.2010 9:26 AM PDT
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