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Subject: The Armor Abilities Got to Go!

I remember back in the day as soon as your Halo match started up you had something to do. it was YOUR task to do it and doing this first will change the tide of game-play greatly. And to me that doesn't exists anymore. Back then as soon as you spawned you HAD to (If you wanted to win) rush out to get that Over-shield or Rockets to have a successful game and with others doing it too it could take strategic skills to get them. But now since you have AA's you can just camp and get an Invincible (30+ kills) and not even move from your spawn. All power weapons aren't well balanced on the map like on "The Pit" or "Guardian" or any Halo map really. The power weapons are just about 3 feet away from you in this game when you spawn. The only balanced weapon placement I can find is the Focus Beam on Power House. But the team that spawns by both the Shotgun AND the Hammer will most likely get it.

And they really need to extend Power House and almost double the size. Like High-Ground. Power House is like From the gate on High-Ground all the way til the AA Guns at the back. That's it.

And about that Invincible thing. Me and my friends have all done it and we have proof...Video proof.

So yeah, AA's need to either go as a whole or change the recharge time. To where it takes like 30 seconds to do Power-Lock and recharge your Camouflage. Jet-packs and Sprint can stay the same. And this game really does need better weapon placements.

Yes, I know it's just a Beta, and that's why I'm posting this now for it wont be in the full game.

[Edited on 05.20.2010 2:57 PM PDT]

  • 05.20.2010 2:56 PM PDT
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Posted by: Frankie
Shut up nerds!

I saw my advantage so I took it...- Homer Simpson

I don't mind them that much. Sure a few could be tweaked (AL and camo) but overall they aren't bad.

  • 05.20.2010 2:59 PM PDT
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"I must have found the ark, because your ass is out of this world."

Disagree. In objective types....secure the objective(is it really that hard to comprehend?). In slayer Stay alive and kill as many as you can and rush for the power weapons.

  • 05.20.2010 2:59 PM PDT
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Posted by: ThreeShot
I don't mind them that much. Sure a few could be tweaked (AL and camo) but overall they aren't bad.

  • 05.20.2010 3:00 PM PDT
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Posted by: iTz IcY FTW
Yes, I know it's just a Beta, and that's why I'm posting this now for it wont be in the full game.

No it isn't "just a beta." The beta fairly accurately represents what the final game will look and play like, save for a few minor tweaks. Armor abilities will not be taken out of the final game.

It is IMPOSSIBLE for them to remove them this far into the development (unless you want the game delayed for a few years). And another thing, they aren't going to remove something because you don't like it.

I think it's more strategic than ever. I find myself willing to use more strategic maneuvers than ever now that I have a backup to fall back on. Whereas, in Halo 3, I would have just ran in, assault rifle spammed, and melee'd for good measure.

[Edited on 05.20.2010 3:03 PM PDT]

  • 05.20.2010 3:01 PM PDT
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"Check it to the end."
- Sniper Spade

Love them! Add perspective so i know im not buying the same game again.

  • 05.20.2010 3:02 PM PDT
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AA's ruined everything. Spawning with literal invincibility that you can use at will? WTF

  • 05.20.2010 3:02 PM PDT
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Posted by: UrethaPoptarts
Posted by: iTz IcY FTW
Yes, I know it's just a Beta, and that's why I'm posting this now for it wont be in the full game.

No it isn't "just a beta." Armor abilities will not be taken out of the final game.

It is IMPOSSIBLE for them to remove them this far into the development (unless you want the game delayed for a few years). And another thing, they aren't going to remove something because you don't like it.

I think it's more strategic than ever. I find myself willing to use more strategic maneuvers than ever now that I have a backup to fall back on. Whereas, in Halo 3, I would have just ran in, assault rifle spammed, and melee'd for good measure.
And that's my point. only noobs like AA's

  • 05.20.2010 3:03 PM PDT
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Posted by: iTz IcY FTW
Posted by: UrethaPoptarts
Posted by: iTz IcY FTW
Yes, I know it's just a Beta, and that's why I'm posting this now for it wont be in the full game.

No it isn't "just a beta." Armor abilities will not be taken out of the final game.

It is IMPOSSIBLE for them to remove them this far into the development (unless you want the game delayed for a few years). And another thing, they aren't going to remove something because you don't like it.

I think it's more strategic than ever. I find myself willing to use more strategic maneuvers than ever now that I have a backup to fall back on. Whereas, in Halo 3, I would have just ran in, assault rifle spammed, and melee'd for good measure.
And that's my point. only noobs like AA's

You're a retard. I've been playing Halo since Xbox original launched.

  • 05.20.2010 3:04 PM PDT
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Posted by: M1STA WU1FY
AA's ruined everything. Spawning with literal invincibility that you can use at will? WTF
That's what I said.

  • 05.20.2010 3:04 PM PDT
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Posted by: Frankie
Shut up nerds!

I saw my advantage so I took it...- Homer Simpson

Posted by: iTz IcY FTW
And that's my point. only noobs like AA's
Paraphrased: Anyone who disagrees with me is bad because I'm too stupid to come up with a real argument.

Ad hominum ftw I guess, mirite?

  • 05.20.2010 3:07 PM PDT
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Posted by: UrethaPoptarts
Posted by: iTz IcY FTW
Posted by: UrethaPoptarts
Posted by: iTz IcY FTW
Yes, I know it's just a Beta, and that's why I'm posting this now for it wont be in the full game.

No it isn't "just a beta." Armor abilities will not be taken out of the final game.

It is IMPOSSIBLE for them to remove them this far into the development (unless you want the game delayed for a few years). And another thing, they aren't going to remove something because you don't like it.

I think it's more strategic than ever. I find myself willing to use more strategic maneuvers than ever now that I have a backup to fall back on. Whereas, in Halo 3, I would have just ran in, assault rifle spammed, and melee'd for good measure.
And that's my point. only noobs like AA's

You're a retard. I've been playing Halo since Xbox original launched.
And?

  • 05.20.2010 3:07 PM PDT
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Jeeze, armor lock isn't god mode people.
I hardly ever have someone use it to a point that it saves their life.

They lock, I pump them full of needles or toss a sticky at the right time and they're dead anyway. They may as well have just died and spawned a few seconds earlier instead of delaying the inevitable by using the skill.

Armor lock is not overpowered, not in the slightest.

  • 05.20.2010 3:08 PM PDT
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Posted by: iTz IcY FTW
Posted by: M1STA WU1FY
AA's ruined everything. Spawning with literal invincibility that you can use at will? WTF
That's what I said.

Because we all know THAT'S how it works right? Everyone just runs around completely invincible.

It's not like they're immobile or anything...







.... Oh wait.

[Edited on 05.20.2010 3:09 PM PDT]

  • 05.20.2010 3:08 PM PDT
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Posted by: ThreeShot
Posted by: iTz IcY FTW
And that's my point. only noobs like AA's
Paraphrased: Anyone who disagrees with me is bad because I'm too stupid to come up with a real argument.

Ad hominum ftw I guess, mirite?
How was I arguing? And how is it stupid. Halo: Reach is noob friendly. And I just proved it in my post. Where's your argument.

  • 05.20.2010 3:09 PM PDT
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Posted by: iTz IcY FTW
Posted by: UrethaPoptarts
I think it's more strategic than ever. I find myself willing to use more strategic maneuvers than ever now that I have a backup to fall back on. Whereas, in Halo 3, I would have just ran in, assault rifle spammed, and melee'd for good measure.
And that's my point. only noobs like AA's
That's what you got out of that? Strategy and tact are noobish?

Armour abilities are great. They add depth to the gameplay. I can't wait until the final game and we get to fight people with all kinds of crazy armour abilities making the match dynamically different than it would ordinarily go. Crazy King is a completely different game when both sides just keep pickign Jetpack.

  • 05.20.2010 3:09 PM PDT
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Any problem can be solved with explosives.
Dinos Forever!
Whatever you do don't nerf it.

The beta was amazing, Reach is the best halo yet, AA's are fine, Stop being a -Blam!-, rushing for weapons was stupid im glad its gone, vehicals no longer king = win, and dont feed the trolls.

Do i make myself clear.

  • 05.20.2010 3:09 PM PDT
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Posted by: Zachcord2
Disagree. In objective types....secure the objective(is it really that hard to comprehend?). In slayer Stay alive and kill as many as you can and rush for the power weapons.


Couldn't have said it better myself.

  • 05.20.2010 3:11 PM PDT
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Posted by: UrethaPoptarts
Posted by: iTz IcY FTW
Posted by: M1STA WU1FY
AA's ruined everything. Spawning with literal invincibility that you can use at will? WTF
That's what I said.

Because we all know THAT'S how it works right? Everyone just runs around completely invincible.

It's not like they're immobile or anything...







.... Oh wait.


Like having to stop moving is a good way to balance 10 minutes of invincibility.

  • 05.20.2010 3:11 PM PDT
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Posted by: M1STA WU1FY
Posted by: UrethaPoptarts
Posted by: iTz IcY FTW
Posted by: M1STA WU1FY
AA's ruined everything. Spawning with literal invincibility that you can use at will? WTF
That's what I said.

Because we all know THAT'S how it works right? Everyone just runs around completely invincible.

It's not like they're immobile or anything...







.... Oh wait.


Like having to stop moving is a good way to balance 10 minutes of invincibility.
You have a childlike perception of time. It must be hell waiting for your preschool to get out every day.

  • 05.20.2010 3:12 PM PDT
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Posted by: Frankie
Shut up nerds!

I saw my advantage so I took it...- Homer Simpson

Posted by: iTz IcY FTW
How was I arguing?
Arguing =/= Argument. English is fun.
And how is it stupid. Halo: Reach is noob friendly. And I just proved it in my post.Um, no, you didn't...like at all. Where's your argument.You don't know how to deal with Armor Lock. So you're obviously bad. Get better bk.

  • 05.20.2010 3:13 PM PDT
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Challenge me to a Hawaiian Punch chugging contest. I dare you.

Posted by: xCrimsonLegendx
Jeeze, armor lock isn't god mode people.
I hardly ever have someone use it to a point that it saves their life.
It's annoying as all hell though. Whenever i'm playing FFA i'll drop someone's shields and suddenly they're invincible. My options are
A)Sit and wait for them to pop out, at which point their shields will begin to recharge.
B)Turn and leave, either exposing my back to them so they assassinate me or leaving my kill for someone else to clean up.
C)GRENADE SPAM!

I strongly dislike everything that comes out of AL. Yes, skilled people can use it tactically and do some really cool stuff with it. The sad thing is you can spam it around and get similar results. I'd love to see it removed or nerfed.

Other than AL, Sprint is good, Jetpacks are good (but should be more bumper jumper friendly), and Invis is good, although it could possible use a larger recharge time.

  • 05.20.2010 3:13 PM PDT
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You just got quiggled!

Doesn't matter what you think, Bungie stated that Armor Abilities are there to stay.

  • 05.20.2010 3:13 PM PDT
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TS: 50 TD: 40 MLG: 36 LW: 42 TSn: 40 TSw: 40 SB: 38 RLD: 44 MLG FFA: 9

Check out my Montages and Tribute Videos on Youtube.com

I'm like the Doubles Robin Hood. I take True-skill from the rich and give it to the needy.

I think I'm starting to sound more like Moriarty than Sherlock Holmes...

Posted by: UrethaPoptarts
Posted by: M1STA WU1FY
Posted by: UrethaPoptarts
Posted by: iTz IcY FTW
Posted by: M1STA WU1FY
AA's ruined everything. Spawning with literal invincibility that you can use at will? WTF
That's what I said.

Because we all know THAT'S how it works right? Everyone just runs around completely invincible.

It's not like they're immobile or anything...







.... Oh wait.


Like having to stop moving is a good way to balance 10 minutes of invincibility.
You have a childlike perception of time. It must be hell waiting for your preschool to get out every day.


You have a childlike ability to flame instead of forming a logical rebuttal. Sounds like you can't legitimately counter my statement.

  • 05.20.2010 3:14 PM PDT
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Any problem can be solved with explosives.
Dinos Forever!
Whatever you do don't nerf it.

[quote] Yeah because haveing to stop moving is a way to balence 10 minutes of invincability [quote]

Did you even play the beta. you get 10 seconds of invincability not ten min.... noob.

  • 05.20.2010 3:17 PM PDT
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