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Subject: What has happend to halo? Once the best series ever by far...

sup

RIP the once best series of all time. I use to be a huge fan of halo, it was my life. To see it become this, deeply saddens me. :(

Now, say hello to call of halo.


There's so many things with this game I'm not going to waste my time to explain. 1000 other threads have already done that.

What has happened to bungie? They use to make ingenious ideas, like high jacking, recharging health, the br.
This game seriously feels like its been made by a group of 12 year old ADD kids.

But I knew from day one Halo: Reach would be fail. What is a Halo game with a HALO??? A: Insta Fail.

The battle of reach is no where near as important as the fights on the rings:
lets see... saving the ENTIRE universe FROM FOREVER EXTERMINATION
or... saving human planet #10,429... and then failing

I mean seriously they base a entire game off of this?


[Edited on 05.03.2010 3:33 PM PDT]

  • 05.03.2010 3:20 PM PDT
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It is just as important if not more, because this is where it all started. But seriously you play the beta for a game or 2 and complain about it?

I see no relation to cod at all and have no idea where people are getting this crap from. So far this is my favorite halo game and it is only in beta.

  • 05.03.2010 3:24 PM PDT
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HAHAHAHAHA
YOU SAID A GOOD IDEA WAS THE BR xD

Well, Halo Reach is kind of what brought master chief to the Halo rings, it's also where many if not all of the spartans died. so It's kind of like ODST (NOT saying it's EXACTLY LIKE ODST)where you get another point of view from the story.

This isn't really beta feedback by the way, you don't give feedback on anything, you just say "This beta sucks" and then complain about how Reach was not important to the Halo series, even though it was.

  • 05.03.2010 3:25 PM PDT
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you opinion ceases to amaze me.. or in other words, gtfo.

  • 05.03.2010 3:26 PM PDT
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true dude true

  • 05.03.2010 3:26 PM PDT
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op....reach not important? you fail real hard

  • 05.03.2010 3:27 PM PDT
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First off, Call of duty is a great game. Second, playing the same thing in 4 games would be completely stupid, if you like the old way, no one is stopping you from playing Halo 1 & 2. I personally like to see new things added and improved gameplay. Just because you don't like it, doesn't mean others don't.

  • 05.03.2010 3:27 PM PDT
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Congratulations jumping on the "Call of Halo" bandwagon that has existed since the first MP Beta Teaser.

Congratulations getting beaten in two games and playing for a whopping 18 minutes before crying.

Congratulations posting this even though you know you will eat this -blam!- up when it finally released retail.

  • 05.03.2010 3:28 PM PDT
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And if you don't like it, you don't have to buy it.

Lets see you make a game with amazing graphics, game story, and multiplayer game modes. When you sell over a million of them let me know and i'll go buy one. So I can complain to you in e-mails and threads.

  • 05.03.2010 3:29 PM PDT
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How the hell isn't it important not to tell the story of how the spartans got wiped out?

  • 05.03.2010 3:31 PM PDT
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I will agree, I am extremely disappointed in Reach. However, that doesn't mean that it is necessarily a bad game; it just isn't a Halo game. Expanding reticules, "Loadout" options, these things just aren't Halo features. I can understand wanting to push the game in a new direction, but not towards modern tactical shooters.

  • 05.03.2010 3:32 PM PDT
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sup

Posted by: Gwhits2013
And if you don't like it, you don't have to buy it.

Lets see you make a game with amazing graphics, game story, and multiplayer game modes. When you sell over a million of them let me know and i'll go buy one. So I can complain to you in e-mails and threads.

Will do.

  • 05.03.2010 3:34 PM PDT
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To be completely honest I think the BR is what is creating all of you people who are whining about how this game sucks instead of playing the new game and learning to get better.
You just want a br with no bloom, and the ability to not have to lead your shots. You want weapons that Kill on their own with out much effort on your part. And i would honestly like to see a random group of 12 year old ADD kids throw something together this awesome. i mean you havent even seen everything they have to offer. There is still more stuff not on the beta. And remember. its a BETA. Halo 3 was great, and made for more of a team effort, as opposed to the im going to grab the BR and totally face own this team with out trying cause my shots dont stray and they face lock. Or maybe you just liked having plenty of glitches to exploit online?

  • 05.03.2010 3:40 PM PDT
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It seems like people just want Halo 3.2
Get over it. IT'S A NEW GAME! IT'S A NEW GAME! IT'S A NEW GAME! IT'S A NEW GAME!IT'S A NEW GAME! IT'S A NEW GAME!IT'S A NEW GAME! IT'S A NEW GAME!IT'S A NEW GAME! IT'S A NEW GAME!IT'S A NEW GAME! IT'S A NEW GAME!IT'S A NEW GAME! IT'S A NEW GAME!IT'S A NEW GAME! IT'S A NEW GAME!

How many times must that be said until it's drilling into your thick skulls?

  • 05.03.2010 3:43 PM PDT
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Posted by: Grave Mind 789
RIP the once best series of all time. I use to be a huge fan of halo, it was my life. To see it become this, deeply saddens me. :(

Now, say hello to call of halo.


There's so many things with this game I'm not going to waste my time to explain. 1000 other threads have already done that.

What has happened to bungie? They use to make ingenious ideas, like high jacking, recharging health, the br.
This game seriously feels like its been made by a group of 12 year old ADD kids.

But I knew from day one Halo: Reach would be fail. What is a Halo game with a HALO??? A: Insta Fail.

The battle of reach is no where near as important as the fights on the rings:
lets see... saving the ENTIRE universe FROM FOREVER EXTERMINATION
or... saving human planet #10,429... and then failing

I mean seriously they base a entire game off of this?
Dude your a -blam!- retard this is where halo began this is the story of why master chief's at halo and id honestly like to see you make a game series that has spawned books, comics, tv shows, live action shorts, etc.. and has sold millions of games so by all means continue to stick your foot in your mouth I'm a little ticked off that I can only get to the menu of the beta but bungie is working on it so go crying to someone else.

  • 05.03.2010 3:47 PM PDT
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Posted by: Fails
TWO MCDOULBE (NO UNION'S, EXTRA PICKLES)
I hate it when my burgers make alliances.

you must have no knowledge on how important reach is if you think it's just another pushover planet

  • 05.03.2010 3:50 PM PDT
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As someone said on another forum... "Killer.. there is no such place as North Virginia"




Warlock

Its called Rollin with the times... either you addapt or get over run by CoD

  • 05.03.2010 3:52 PM PDT
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Halo 2, you will be missed

Posted by: Grave Mind 789
RIP the once best series of all time. I use to be a huge fan of halo, it was my life. To see it become this, deeply saddens me. :(

Now, say hello to call of halo.


There's so many things with this game I'm not going to waste my time to explain. 1000 other threads have already done that.

What has happened to bungie? They use to make ingenious ideas, like high jacking, recharging health, the br.
This game seriously feels like its been made by a group of 12 year old ADD kids.

But I knew from day one Halo: Reach would be fail. What is a Halo game with a HALO??? A: Insta Fail.

The battle of reach is no where near as important as the fights on the rings:
lets see... saving the ENTIRE universe FROM FOREVER EXTERMINATION
or... saving human planet #10,429... and then failing

I mean seriously they base a entire game off of this?


LOL you do realize that without the battle of Reach MC would not have escaped to the first halo ring right? It is important. Also you state what sucks but you don't say WHY they suck. Its called adaptation, if you can't adapt you will end up failing in the end. It applies to evolution and it applies to this game. If you cannot adapt to the new gameplay changes then do not play, but this is a feedback forum. Not a complaint forum.

  • 05.03.2010 3:53 PM PDT
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Posted by: Tegernako
Long wall of Text ahead...




It's interesting that so many people claim to be fans of Halo, but make their demands for what the game should be, so narrow that it doesn't really seem to be a new game at all, but just another one with a number added on. A title does not make a new game. They want something new for multiplayer, but Armour abillities make thousands of people freak out, or they add set weapon starts and people scream inbalance. They want new weapons, but complain about the uselessness of vehicles because of them. They want innovation, but they yell that all bungie is doing is ripping from other games and stealing their ideas.

I mean, looking at the Feed-Back forum, and ignoring the legitimate complaints, and focusing instead of things, for example like Bloom when firing and weapon ranges you will notice that all the people complain about things that they never really had to deal with before. They seem to want Halo 3.2 or Halo: CE.1/2.


Something I find interesting is the role nostalgia plays in this. The same players will swear all to hell that their is no nostalgia, but I suspect part of what made the older games so special to them is because they were NEW. That seems like it should be self-evident, but I see a lot of people running on the assumption that the novelty they felt playing an earlier game can be recaptured simply by replicating the features in their entirety, and looking at those features as if they could all exist in their own world, rather then just as a gear in the machine making it all work.

It's also strange that these people will make contradictory demands: they want novelty and innovation, while simultaneously wanting nothing to actually change. If they liked all Assualt rifles in the past as starters, they want the new game to be exactly the same, but feel new and fresh as the day they first played the earlier games. Ignoring the fact that a new game can not possibly be the exact same as it was before.

Thats not to say people don't know what they like, just that alot of factors go into "what makes a new game" question, many of the emotional. You ask that question and you often get "What should Halo BE?
Halo does not have a set defintion as to what the game is. Look at Halo Wars, its halo isn't it? Is it an FPS? No. But some people -blam!-ed about it, because it WASN'T WHAT THEY WANTED IN HALO!

If someone can go out, and find me to official description of exactly makes up a Halo game. Weapon bloom, weapons, settings, all that. Please, go ahead. But you will fail because Halo does not have a defintion, it does not have to have the same things, it does not have to have Regenerating health, or Assualt rifle's that act like SMG's, it does not have to have a battle rifle, and it does not need to have Spartans and Elites exactly the same. You can not realisticly say Halo HAS to have ANYTHING THE SAME because if Halo: Reach was to simialr to Halo 3, what would everyone be complaining about? But its to different so its bad?

Speaking for myself, I think there's alot of room in the genre for the "Real Shooter" model. What they like is intelligent, and everything else is "dumbed down" and thus for the stupider, more casual, less competitive, not quite as good hoi polloi. And its strange, because I've seen people playing the beta who say, the game is harder, you have to pulse the trigger, you have to work together to get anything down, and that by themselves the AA's like AL seem to be useless. That seems to be the opposite of casual.

Idealy there would be room for Shooters to come that cover every spectrum of interests within the genre, and specifically for Halo. If the market is there, the industry will find it. I think what you often encounter is a fear amongst Halo fans that their isn't a big enough market for exactly what they wants, and yet a desire for that triple-A games should still be made for them regardless.

Perhaps instead of looking at the game in the same way you viewed it when playing Halo 3 or CE, you should view it for what it is...a new game in the Halo Universe. And remember that if a sequel is to succeed, it needs to change in some ways. You don't have to like it, and nobody is forcing you too. If you don't like the changes, then the game is not for you. That's fine, its your opinion.

  • 05.03.2010 3:54 PM PDT
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Posted by: Grave Mind 789
RIP the once best series of all time. I use to be a huge fan of halo, it was my life. To see it become this, deeply saddens me. :(

Now, say hello to call of halo.


There's so many things with this game I'm not going to waste my time to explain. 1000 other threads have already done that.

What has happened to bungie? They use to make ingenious ideas, like high jacking, recharging health, the br.
This game seriously feels like its been made by a group of 12 year old ADD kids.

But I knew from day one Halo: Reach would be fail. What is a Halo game with a HALO??? A: Insta Fail.

The battle of reach is no where near as important as the fights on the rings:
lets see... saving the ENTIRE universe FROM FOREVER EXTERMINATION
or... saving human planet #10,429... and then failing

I mean seriously they base a entire game off of this?

So you're saying Halo has died because it's not about the Flood, Forerunners or Halos?

Whatever. The Flood sucked anyways.

Posted by: Tegernako
Maybe 343 can make a Dead Space ripoff using the Flood and the Forerunners.

[Edited on 05.03.2010 4:00 PM PDT]

  • 05.03.2010 3:56 PM PDT
  • reply edit unleash ninjas

They other Halo games are already out there. If you want to play them , go do so.

  • 05.03.2010 3:57 PM PDT
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Posted by: Tegernako
Posted by: Tegernako


Posted by: Tegernako
Long wall of Text ahead...




It's interesting that so many people claim to be fans of Halo, but make their demands for what the game should be, so narrow that it doesn't really seem to be a new game at all, but just another one with a number added on. A title does not make a new game. They want something new for multiplayer, but Armour abillities make thousands of people freak out, or they add set weapon starts and people scream inbalance. They want new weapons, but complain about the uselessness of vehicles because of them. They want innovation, but they yell that all bungie is doing is ripping from other games and stealing their ideas.

I mean, looking at the Feed-Back forum, and ignoring the legitimate complaints, and focusing instead of things, for example like Bloom when firing and weapon ranges you will notice that all the people complain about things that they never really had to deal with before. They seem to want Halo 3.2 or Halo: CE.1/2.


Something I find interesting is the role nostalgia plays in this. The same players will swear all to hell that their is no nostalgia, but I suspect part of what made the older games so special to them is because they were NEW. That seems like it should be self-evident, but I see a lot of people running on the assumption that the novelty they felt playing an earlier game can be recaptured simply by replicating the features in their entirety, and looking at those features as if they could all exist in their own world, rather then just as a gear in the machine making it all work.

It's also strange that these people will make contradictory demands: they want novelty and innovation, while simultaneously wanting nothing to actually change. If they liked all Assualt rifles in the past as starters, they want the new game to be exactly the same, but feel new and fresh as the day they first played the earlier games. Ignoring the fact that a new game can not possibly be the exact same as it was before.

Thats not to say people don't know what they like, just that alot of factors go into "what makes a new game" question, many of the emotional. You ask that question and you often get "What should Halo BE?
Halo does not have a set defintion as to what the game is. Look at Halo Wars, its halo isn't it? Is it an FPS? No. But some people -blam!-ed about it, because it WASN'T WHAT THEY WANTED IN HALO!

If someone can go out, and find me to official description of exactly makes up a Halo game. Weapon bloom, weapons, settings, all that. Please, go ahead. But you will fail because Halo does not have a defintion, it does not have to have the same things, it does not have to have Regenerating health, or Assualt rifle's that act like SMG's, it does not have to have a battle rifle, and it does not need to have Spartans and Elites exactly the same. You can not realisticly say Halo HAS to have ANYTHING THE SAME because if Halo: Reach was to simialr to Halo 3, what would everyone be complaining about? But its to different so its bad?

Speaking for myself, I think there's alot of room in the genre for the "Real Shooter" model. What they like is intelligent, and everything else is "dumbed down" and thus for the stupider, more casual, less competitive, not quite as good hoi polloi. And its strange, because I've seen people playing the beta who say, the game is harder, you have to pulse the trigger, you have to work together to get anything down, and that by themselves the AA's like AL seem to be useless. That seems to be the opposite of casual.

Idealy there would be room for Shooters to come that cover every spectrum of interests within the genre, and specifically for Halo. If the market is there, the industry will find it. I think what you often encounter is a fear amongst Halo fans that their isn't a big enough market for exactly what they wants, and yet a desire for that triple-A games should still be made for them regardless.

Perhaps instead of looking at the game in the same way you viewed it when playing Halo 3 or CE, you should view it for what it is...a new game in the Halo Universe. And remember that if a sequel is to succeed, it needs to change in some ways. You don't have to like it, and nobody is forcing you too. If you don't like the changes, then the game is not for you. That's fine, its your opinion.

  • 05.03.2010 3:59 PM PDT
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sup

Posted by: Methew
Posted by: Grave Mind 789
RIP the once best series of all time. I use to be a huge fan of halo, it was my life. To see it become this, deeply saddens me. :(

Now, say hello to call of halo.


There's so many things with this game I'm not going to waste my time to explain. 1000 other threads have already done that.

What has happened to bungie? They use to make ingenious ideas, like high jacking, recharging health, the br.
This game seriously feels like its been made by a group of 12 year old ADD kids.

But I knew from day one Halo: Reach would be fail. What is a Halo game with a HALO??? A: Insta Fail.

The battle of reach is no where near as important as the fights on the rings:
lets see... saving the ENTIRE universe FROM FOREVER EXTERMINATION
or... saving human planet #10,429... and then failing

I mean seriously they base a entire game off of this?

So you're saying Halo has died because it's not about the Flood, Forerunners or Halos?

Whatever. The Flood sucked anyways.

Posted by: Tegernako
Maybe 343 can make a Dead Space ripoff using the Flood and the Forerunners.

If the flood sucked halo sucked. The flood made halo halo. Otherwise its another boring aliens r meanies shooter

  • 05.03.2010 4:10 PM PDT
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R3TARD

  • 05.03.2010 4:12 PM PDT
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